At what point did you treat your blog as a business, and what steps did you take to make it legit?

by J. Money on December 13, 2012

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Remember our friend Serena who prompted me to put all these emails online? Well our chats continued and a bunch of other *GREAT* questions came out it which I’m sure has gone through your minds at some point too :)

Here’s our latest strand on business stuff:

Oh. WOW….You just hit the nail on the head when you asked: “If you weren’t doing THIS, what would you be doing that’s better?

My response is–NOTHING!!! This IS what I want to be doing! So there is no room for discouragement, because there *is* no Plan B. Hahahaha. You really have inspired me so much with this email (and I never would have guessed that writing is the hardest part for you, because you make it seem easy). For me, I LOVE LOVE LOVE writing (in fact, at one of my H.S. reunions, someone asked me if I was a writer because she remembers that is what I did best back in ‘da day, LOL).

Anyhow, you are totally refueling me, and opened my eyes to the fact that I must keep going. I once asked myself what my life’s purpose what, in terms of “themes.” And I came up with 5, but only 3 have stuck to this day: TO CREATE….TO INSPIRE….AND TO EDUCATE. And my blogging is the perfect platform for that.

I realized the other day, however, that I have been treating blogging as a HOBBY, but expecting it to reward me as a BUSINESS. Wth…..? Going forward, I am going to treat Thrift Diving, and any subsequent blogs I start, as a business, with missions statements, and measureable goals!! :)

Oh, and one more question: At what point did you treat your blog as a business, and what steps did you take to make it legit? Do I need a lawyer? Do I need a tax ID number right now? Do I need to hire someone for a pretty web design?

Thank you so much!!!!!! :) Okay, gotta get this report done for my “9-to-5″ before I leave early today. SIGH….the life of a blogger who only works at night. LOL

My response: Hehe so glad it helped!!! and that you actually RESPONDED BACK too – you’d be amazed at the people who ask me a billion questions and then never email tell me thank you or anything. After I spent like an hour or so on trying to help them (arghhhh))).. so you’re already on my “favorite people” list ;)

The smartest people ask questions when they need help too, so I’m glad you’re continuing to shoot them over. Regardless of my time crunch I will always find a way to respond and help out where I can – we’ve got a loving blogger community so we gotta hook each other up!

RE: Your questions… You’re totally right – you DO have to treat your blog as a *business* if you want it to act like one, good reminder! I’m totally gonna use that line for future emailers, haha, thanks :)

At what point did you treat your blog as a business, and what steps did you take to make it legit?

I probably started thinking of it more business-like after the first year when I realized there could be something “bigger” there. Both my readership, and income, was going up pretty consistently over the months, so I figured I should probably pay more attention to the biz side of things and try and be more strategic if I could figure out how (always the hardest part, right? :)).

At the same time though, I also wanted it to STILL be a hobby #1 and a business #2 – as the community and fun parts of it were – and still are – my main driving forces behind the site. Which complicates things more because business does NOT always mix too well with fun, haha…

But at any rate, yes – I did officially create a legal entity around it by creating an LLC which seemed to make the most sense for what I was trying to do – especially protection wise. Any site or company or whatever that brings in money is already technically a business in the IRS’ eyes, but forming something legally helps protect you more when it comes to liability and other things… And as I started to lean towards blogging full-time for a living, of course those things became more and more important over time. But I’m no lawyer or legal person, so I’d refer to your own Google searches on what entities are the best, and for what reasons/etc.

Right now in your stage though, you probably don’t need to even go down that route until you start bringing home a lot more money or you want the liability protection in case someone sues you for whatever stupid reason. You can have an incredibly successful “company” as a sole proprietor and not have to deal with any of the hassles of legal stuff if you don’t want to. It just depends on what you’re comfortable with or not. Know what I’m saying?

Do I need a lawyer?

You could, but I didn’t. I just read up on it a lot and asked a lawyer student friend of mine, and then filed all the paperwork (which wasn’t much) with my state’s small business office along with cutting them a check (the non-fun part). That pretty much *formed* the legal entity, and then every year I have to pay the taxes on assets/etc as with all businesses. You could also use places like LegalZoom.com which will walk you through the steps and do it all for you which is nice and easy, and you just pay them a premium to do so. It all depends on what you prefer. (And again, at this stage I really don’t think it should be a high priority for you, at least from what I can tell.)

Do I need a tax ID number right now?

Once you set up the legal entity, you can then file for a tax ID – if I recall correctly it was free. Until then, your company is automatically a sole proprietorship (I’m pretty sure at least – don’t quote me!) and your income/taxes/etc go through you as an individual using your Social Security #. As long as you’re reporting all your money which you should be! (That becomes a whoooooole other topic which a lot of people/bloggers like to “forget” about ;))

Do I need to hire someone for a pretty web design?

If you want to! But it’s totally up to how you want to brand yourself and the reasons for it. I, personally, like sites/blogs/companies that come across as super personal and down to Earth – so for me anything too fancy or “corporate” looking just turns me off from the start. I’d rather see a crappier-designed site but with GOOD content over a fancy pants one. But I may also not be your target audience ;)  That’s for you to figure out and decide on.

Though you could always spruce it up and have someone tweak things out for you to still keep it “yours” you know? All depends on what you’re going for. If you need recommendations, I can intro you to a few designer friends I know who may be able to hook you up…

Hope this helps! Just remember to always be YOU and do what you’re comfortable with… The more you get into *other* stuff that takes away your time and energy/excitement, the less you have to pour into the core of your site. So makes sure you’ve got that on lock first, and THEN consider doing all the rest. Your content and community is #1!

:)

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{ 11 comments… read them below or add one }

Michelle December 13, 2012 at 8:35 am

Definitely just bookmarked this page. I plan on doing a LOT of things in 2013 to make it more professional. I’m been slacking in this department.

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J. Money December 13, 2012 at 8:41 am

Awesome! Good for you on making it a game plan :) Just be sure to weigh the pros and cons of what exactly you think is good to do when it comes time and you’ll be fine. Sometimes blogs don’t need to ever be “professional” if things are rockin’!

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Lance @ Monry Life and More December 13, 2012 at 8:50 am

I personally am glad I got a pro to redesign my site. I am now proud of the design and no longer have to suffer with the uglyness that I created initially.

I am in the process of setting my blog up in a company for tax advantages and liability protection. Just makes more sense now that I have made more than a couple hundred bucks and I know I am serious and will continue into the future.

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J. Money December 13, 2012 at 8:54 am

Congrats man! You’re growing/making more money a lot faster than I did starting out :) I think it took me 6 months to finally start bringing anything decent in. Maybe we need you to start a blogging blog?!

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Lance @ Monry Life and More December 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Haha I don’t have enough expertise to do that, plus I need to stay focused on my blog that I am trying to build #1.

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J. Money December 13, 2012 at 8:36 pm

HEY! I didn’t know we could do comment responses like this?? Awesome! I should totally set it up over at BudgetsAreSexy!

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Lance @ Money Life and More December 15, 2012 at 10:58 am

Learn something new everyday :)

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Joanna @ Our Freaking Budget December 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

What would you say contributed the most to your blog readership growing consistently, aside from focusing on providing solid content?

Also, your hobby #1 and business #2 is a great philosophy!

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J. Money December 13, 2012 at 8:42 pm

Thanks! I find whenever you start something purely for the money it rarely ends up as well ;) Not that I even KNEW there was money to be made in blogging – I had no idea. Just got super lucky!

RE: Readership growth – Honestly? Probably because I was *different* and stood out among the other more normal sites at the time… Which isn’t hard to do when the topic is surrounding money, haha.. it’s not the most exciting thing in the world for some people ;) But I wanted to put my own spin on it and just say whatever I wanted without much censorship (or grammar, for that matter) cuz if I didn’t I’d get bored too easily…

So whenever I blog I do my best to make it as un-boring as possible too (which is why I also stay away from technical stuff or intricate “how to’s” even though they’re important for people to know). Which I’m sure also helped people to stick around.

Really though it’s all about just being yourself, and sharing new and fresh ideas you’ve got in your head vs what everyone else is doing. If you do that you’ll be pretty well off. Though you do have to do all the marketing and interacting/networking too which also pushes your growth forward, but that’s all extra stuff on top of the meat and potatoes: the “standing out” part.

Hope that answered your question :)

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Joanna @ Our Freaking Budget December 13, 2012 at 11:16 pm

Thanks, it did! Seems like good advice. It would suck to get up and blog every day trying to please everyone else. It’s been really therapeutic for Johnny and me so far finding out how our personalities exist in blog form :)

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J. Money December 14, 2012 at 8:48 am

Good! Also I forgot to mention that having a consistent schedule usually helps too – not only to let your audience know when to expect new stuff (like, MWF or whatever), but also to push you guys in being creative and coming up with good stuff every week… Some bloggers may disagree with me on that one and say you should only blog when you have something interesting to say, but I think scheduling is key for long-term growth for sure… I’ve tried the “awesome only” route on other projects and it’s way to stressful, haha…

Keep up the good work! :)

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